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 May 6 2008, 01:11 PM
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I'm wondering about other people's thoughts on the importance of the lights vs. the person holding them in glowsticking. I've tried to develop my stringing style behind the idea that, ideally, I should disappear, and anybody who's watching me ought to just see the sticks; partially because I just like to watch the pretty moving lights myself, partially because I think it fits in with the whole ethos of non-competition, non-self-promotion. I try to wear dark clothing for glowsticking for the same reason. But, on the other hand, there's a large array of patterns that really depend on your body (wraps, traces). And then there's really no choice to make yourself noticeable. Probably 90% of freehanding falls into that category (hm... maybe that's why I lean more towards stringing), but even then there's a definite difference between the look of someone freehanding in gloves, black sweatpants, and a hoody vs. someone in jeans and a white t-shirt.
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Humble mushrooms in the light
Turn to jewels in the night
Foxfire
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May 6 2008, 01:29 PM
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Glowsticking is like any other art form.
Anyone can do it, but through the way that we carry it out,
we develop our own unique style.
No two stringers have the same style,
although it can be apparent who has been influenced by who.
I personally favor having people be able to see what i'm doing,
just so they might be able to appreciate the complexity of a move,
because if you can't see my body,
the lights make the same pattern for a huggy crosser,
as they do for a straitjacket, as they do for an OTH straitjacket.
I feel that the way the art is conveyed depends directly upon the artist.
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So... Where did all the water come from?
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May 6 2008, 01:49 PM
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Group: Senior Member
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QUOTE (Foxfire @ May 6 2008, 04:11 PM)  I'm wondering about other people's thoughts on the importance of the lights vs. the person holding them in glowsticking. What would art be, but for not the artist? Art is a result of the artist. The lights are a tool, a medium that the artist uses.
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May 6 2008, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE (MinneapolisAcid @ May 6 2008, 05:29 PM) I personally favor having people be able to see what i'm doing,
just so they might be able to appreciate the complexity of a move,
because if you can't see my body,
the lights make the same pattern for a huggy crosser,
as they do for a straitjacket, as they do for an OTH straitjacket. Heh. Thanks for confirming that. I generally pick up new moves by looking at / thinking of the trails, and then thinking "how can I get the sticks to move like that", rather than starting with trying to train my arms to move in a particular way. So every once in a while, I'll come across someone doing a new move that looks pretty much the same as something I already know, and then I have to puzzle over it, trying to figure out "is that just another way of making the same pattern, or is the some subtle difference that I'm missing?" When other people are watching me string, I generally think "I put a lot of effort into making these trails look just like I want 'em to, what are you doin' looking at my non-luminescent hands?" Unless I know that they're watching to try and pick it up themselves, but then it's a different situation; teaching/learning is totally distinct from just relaxing and having fun with the lights.
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Humble mushrooms in the light
Turn to jewels in the night
Foxfire
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May 6 2008, 03:01 PM
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From: SF East Bay
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it depends on the stringer, but personally i use my body a lot when im stringing
my style involves a lot of body movement and dancing, so even though I usually wear a darker shirt, my body is an important aspect of my stringing. to me, glowsticking is more than just creating pretty patterns, it's moving your body to fit both the music playing and the trails created with the glowsticks
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May 6 2008, 04:23 PM
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From: Denison, Tx (Dallas Region)
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I used to be the same way, wearing dark clothing so the lights would show but not me, and I'd be in a dark corner somewhere doing my thing. Nowdays I wear as much white as possible, and I try to place myself in the crowd, not to draw attention, but for more crowd involvement. If people see that it's actually an artist (hence the white to show up) they seem to have more appreciation for the art. Hiding in dark clothing in a dark area, yes people see it, but they generally don't give it as much thought. If your goal is to promote and spread the art (which I'd hope that's one of your goals), there's no better way to do it than by putting yourself right out there with the crowd, very visible. Try it sometime, you'll find that more people ask questions about how they can learn. Plus as has been said, there's so many moves that viewers just can't appreciate unless they can see your body.
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May 7 2008, 01:26 PM
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I think most people who think of it as a dance AND most people who think of it as an object manipulation would prefer to be visible while stringing or freehanding.
Also, I'm tired of Passive PLUR.
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May 8 2008, 08:15 AM
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You have to realize, a HUGE part of the art is your body as well. It never has, and never will be a good idea to post a video of just two light trails flying around. Thats bad art. It doesn't look good. If you want me to prove that to you, make a video of yourself in a completely dark room where you are not visible doing your entire arsenal of tricks. Now post a video where you are visible doing the same exact thing. Just becuase your detacthed from the sticks themselves with a few feet of string doesn't mean your not still connected. Happy stringing ^,^;
BTW, I dare someone to actually make a side by side comparison between invisible body and lighted body.
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May 14 2008, 09:59 AM
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all about 'stage presence' or your personality.. don't let the art over power you cuz sometimes they only care about the light and not the person wielding it ;o
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May 15 2008, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE (decemberscalm @ May 8 2008, 12:15 PM) You have to realize, a HUGE part of the art is your body as well. It never has, and never will be a good idea to post a video of just two light trails flying around. Thats bad art. It doesn't look go | | |
