Okay,
So the only other thread in this forum consists of a bunch of people saying how no one listens to techno. It's too mainstream...but then apparently there's some kind of techno that is the real techno...and then it's too predictable..but then there's tech trance...

So I just have to ask the question..
What is REAL techno?

Give examples!

hardstyle techno is ill, though it is usually considered originated from trance, i belive it originated from techno due to it having very similar sounds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardstyle

Cool, but I was hoping people could post specific tracks that capitulate the genre.

Here's a few I think are typical techno:
(less mainstream than like cascada or something haha)
Basshunter - Professional Party People, Welcome to Rainbow


Pakito - You Wanna Rock


Linkan - Better Days (Original Mix)


Aycan - Devil in Disguise


89ers - Higher Love


Tune Up - Ravers Fantasy


Lunaspace - Where's the Party


I'm pretty sure there's a fine line here blurred with hardstyle though.

Feel free to agree or disagree... i like all of the aforementioned songs lot though whatever genre they are.

How did this answer his question at all?

what would one night in new york city by the horrorest go under

ravers fantasy for the win! i used to string to that for practice all the time but then i fell off and developed a bit of a new sound, but its still epic never the less

Techno...is hard to define, for me anyways. I would consider Carl Cox, Crystal Method, and Chemical Brothers to fall under Techno.

This is coming from a guy from detroit (techno mecca) the difference between various music genres is simple, but first a little history!

Back in the 1970s there was a short period of musical history called Disco. Disco had its last #1 hit in 1979, which was Heart of Glass by Blondie. After this hit Disco began to die. Out of the ashes in a legendary, almost mythical club (The Warehouse) in Chicago emerged House Music, hence "The Warehouse. While this is happening in Chicago, wind of this new genre reaches Detroit, and then there was the Belleville three.

The reason for all Techno is the Belleville three. These three guys, Derrick May, Juan Atkins, and Kevin Saunderson are the originators of techno. They are from a suburb of Detroit called Belleville. It all began in the Mid 1980s. At the time Detroit was going into a recession, and the big three auto industry reigned supreme. As a result The Belleville Three took the influence from House music, and the depressed, mechanical state of the city, thus techno was born.

Techno is a gritty, mechanical, and in most cases a dark form of electronic music. It is classified by repetition and purity of sound. It is quite possibly the most soulless genre in the electronic music world

The reason why you are confused about "real" Techno is this: In the 1990s Electronic music hit the mainstream. I'm sure you have heard a jock jams CD, or heard the song I've got the power by Snap! For some unexplained reason, everyone started calling this music "techno" even though it was a form of house music, probably because they didn't know what else to call it. So from then on everyone who was not educated about electronic music called it techno. And the ambiguity of the word techno is still present today.

Some examples of some true, pure, detroit techno are these:

(song - artist)

CLASSIC TECHNO:
Clear - Cybotron
Superior Race - Dopplereffekt
The Bells - Jeff Mills

MORE RECENT TECHNO:
Diablo - Oliver Huntemann, Dubfire
China Girl - Adam Beyer
Organic - Mikael Jonasson

Do some of your own educating at http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/
Also If you really want to keep up with what is really happening in the electronic music world go to Http://www.Beatport.com



Carl cox does do a lot of techno, but he also is big into house. (he is quite well know for his house) Crystal Method does mostly Electro House and Breaks and chemical brothers are undeniably breaks

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On a side note, please become as educated as possible about your genre differences. This will allow you to discover music you had no idea existed. Also i would suggest being more selective and even a tad bit pretentious about what you listen to. This will also help you find new discoveries. Search for that sound that you are looking for and continue till you find it.
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None of those songs are even remotely techno. Its okay though you will learn.

Techno is not "Techno" in the sense that it's not cheesy mainstream pop-trance from the likes of Basshunter or Cascadia or however the fuck you spell her name.

Techno, as said before, grew out of the belleville three. as it was being exported to places outside of Detroit and the surrounding areas, it grew into more percussive states, as well as more ambient at times. everything from a very simple soundscape (Ala, minimal techno) to the all out percussive escapades of Tekno and Hard Techno (one and the same) from the U.K

Around the early 90's, from 1989 to 1994, there was a huge growth of techno around the world, spurred on by several soundsystems such as Heretik, Spiral tribe, Just about every group involved with the Castlemorton party back in the early 90's.

What is castlemorton? Wiki it, it's an important party, not just in the U.K scene, But worldwide, and a far cry from the screaming people worshiping a human record player in a jam packed club.

But really, I can't add too much from Expo's post, he got it spot on (Even if it was possibly copypasted from Ishkur's guide, lol.)