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    > Bad Guys Really Do Get the Girls

    Easy_Target
    post Jun 19 2008, 01:03 PM
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    http://www.newscientist.com/channel/sex/mg...line-news_rss20

    NICE guys knew it, now two studies have confirmed it: bad boys get the most girls. The finding may help explain why a nasty suite of antisocial personality traits known as the "dark triad" persists in the human population, despite their potentially grave cultural costs.

    The traits are the self-obsession of narcissism; the impulsive, thrill-seeking and callous behaviour of psychopaths; and the deceitful and exploitative nature of Machiavellianism. At their extreme, these traits would be highly detrimental for life in traditional human societies. People with these personalities risk being shunned by others and shut out of relationships, leaving them without a mate, hungry and vulnerable to predators.

    But being just slightly evil could have an upside: a prolific sex life, says Peter Jonason at New Mexico State University in Las Cruces. "We have some evidence that the three traits are really the same thing and may represent a successful evolutionary strategy."

    Jonason and his colleagues subjected 200 college students to personality tests designed to rank them for each of the dark triad traits. They also asked about their attitudes to sexual relationships and about their sex lives, including how many partners they'd had and whether they were seeking

    The study found that those who scored higher on the dark triad personality traits tended to have more partners and more desire for short-term relationships, Jonason reported at the Human Behavior and Evolution Society meeting in Kyoto, Japan, earlier this month. But the correlation only held in males.

    James Bond epitomises this set of traits, Jonason says. "He's clearly disagreeable, very extroverted and likes trying new things - killing people, new women." Just as Bond seduces woman after woman, people with dark triad traits may be more successful with a quantity-style or shotgun approach to reproduction, even if they don't stick around for parenting. "The strategy seems to have worked. We still have these traits," Jonason says.

    This observation seems to hold across cultures. David Schmitt of Bradley University in Peoria, Illinois, presented preliminary results at the same meeting from a survey of more than 35,000 people in 57 countries. He found a similar link between the dark triad and reproductive success in men. "It is universal across cultures for high dark triad scorers to be more active in short-term mating," Schmitt says. "They are more likely to try and poach other people's partners for a brief affair."

    Barbara Oakley of Oakland University in Rochester, Michigan, says that the studies "verify something a lot of people have conjectured about".

    Christopher von Rueden of the University of California at Santa Barbara says that the studies are important because they confirm that personality variation has direct fitness consequences.

    "They still have to explain why it hasn't spread to everyone," says Matthew Keller of the University of Colorado in Boulder. "There must be some cost of the traits." One possibility, both Keller and Jonason suggest, is that the strategy is most successful when dark triad personalities are rare. Otherwise, others would become more wary and guarded.



    Summary: Bad Guys get more girls. That means girls like bad guys more than nice guys. About time they fess up to the truth as now science has supported the statement?

    For those of you who said "bullshit, it's not true," back then. I told you so. (if you've no idea what I mean by "back then," don't ask.)

    Discuss.


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    post Jun 19 2008, 01:37 PM
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    stop stressing will. Damn you and your articles. Don't you change and be a bad boy just to get women. Look they can't hold down any relationship. They can't ever feel in love.

    dark trait = bad.

    Don't let that discourage you.
    the right person for you doesn't look for the dark trait. They see though the bullshit.

    Don't lose your self esteem.

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    post Jun 19 2008, 01:41 PM
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    The assholes may get more girls, but I'd like to think that's because they don't care about a relationship, just sex. A nice guy I'd like to think has the goal of actually looking for the right mate to spend the rest of their life with. So yeah, bad guys may be with more girls, but they're probably not having a happy correctly functioning life. Sad to think that the extra breeding by the bad guys helps to increase the population count that has the bad genes.


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    QUOTE (Ph0toN @ Jun 19 2008, 04:41 PM) *
    A nice guy I'd like to think has the goal of actually looking for the right mate to spend the rest of their life with. So yeah, bad guys may be with more girls, but they're probably not having a happy correctly functioning life. Sad to think that the extra breeding by the bad guys helps to increase the population count that has the bad genes.

    I think nice guys do have that goal. But the more girls that you cross paths with, the greater your odds of finding that one girl.


    If that right girl is one in one hundred and you only meet one girl, that's 99 chances of meeting the wrong girl for you.


    See the problem?


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    post Jun 19 2008, 01:50 PM
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    http://approachanxiety.com/?p=80

    a very candid, stop-pitying-yourself approach to nice guys and women. actually, what being a nice guy really means.

    ok, so say we admitted we liked "bad boys". guys always openly express their preferences for women, so now that science confirms what women want, isn't everything so much simpler now? everyone knows what everyone else wants! hooray!


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    Bad guys get more sex, statistically speaking, not beginning to touch on what kinds of girls they're getting. Great. And? Is that all you want?


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    Im cool with this, huzzah for the evil guys fucking women! =]

    Enjoy your STD's.
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    Easy I think your using your research here to just make yourself more relaxed about not getting a girl. Stop making excuses for yourself.


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