Reminiscing about the past while i was running... high school, jr high.. thought i'd spur on some discussion.

Guys who slavishly let a girl dictate their opinions. Have you met one? Have you ever lost a guy friend to that? You know what i'm talking about.. the really lonely kid.. the one who've never been with anyone but the guy that's the therapist for every girl out there. the one who makes his every decision based on what the girl says and spins for her own benefit?

have you ever met those people who are your best friends til the moment you stop doing stuff for them? like rides and such? the ones who always promise all these things but never come out to see you?

then when you stop, they turn on you, because they have short term memories of all the stuff you did for them, and they can't use you anymore.

or maybe you have a best girlfriend.. and she betrays you for a more popular person for her to be friends with. maybe you were that girl or guy..

how about the dude who is chronically lonely, and as soon as some girl gives him some attention, and she's really loose and easy, he drops his bestfriend to be with that girl, maybe even stabbing him in the back and talking a lot of crap about him, and then trying to get everyone's friends against the guy or at least not hanging out with that guy, just because he doesn't want them to talk to him because he knows he fucked up. i saw that in my past too, and that was messed up.

anyone have any stories?

About 3 years ago, when I started raving something like that happened. It was actually with the person who got me started going out to raves and such.

I would hang out with him frequently, go on long busrides to the middle of nowhere or walk miles to meet them so we could hang out. They introduced me to one of the things I love the most in my life.

He slowly stopped talking to me when he found out I started smoking. Once I did one thing that they didn't like, one thing that made me someone "disgusting". They wouldn't even talk to me about it afterwards. He would do this to a number of people. If he found out you did drugs, smoked or drank he would stop talking to you, no matter what your personality was or how long you'd been friends. Once you did one thing he saw as undesirable he would cut you off.

Later on he stopped raving and started talking shit about it. I can remember when all he'd talk about was raves and the music. Now's he's a douche; a super popular scene kid, on myspace with his video blog. Even while we were hanging out I started noticing other things, like he'd make sacrifices for the sake of fitting into the rising trend. All he'd talk about or point out were scene kids and clothes he thought looked cool. He pretty much sacrificed old friends for the sake of a fashion trend.

The topic title bothered me, as a girl with guy friends she's had to coax out of various ruts, but I see where you're going with the topic. Maybe make the title more generalized? Looks like we've got more stories about being used.

Before my junior year of high school, I made a decision to switch schools for various reasons. What I hadn't realized was that I had switched into a school system with a very tight-knit network of people who'd been friends since elementary school, and I spent the first five weeks essentially speaking to no one, mostly friendless.

The first group of girls who took me in seemed open and friendly-- all gorgeous, very welcoming, unique; we shared an interest (at the time) in Japanese culture & music. but I hadn't realized that the main reason, more or less, they brought me into their circle was that I was Asian; they were seeking a replacement for a good friend and exchange student they adored. She returned to Korea shortly before they 'adopted' me. After a couple of months, they realized that I wasn't the kind of Asian they were looking for-- I wasn't scene, I wasn't finicky about fashion and various superficial things, and at the time, I was naive to a fault. I had very simplistic views. And I was hurt because I felt welcomed for the first time at that school, only to find it was a farce.

Joy of all joys. There are plenty of stereotypical use-the-smart-kid-for-their-homework-and-project-abilities stories, too, but those are all the same.

Bad things just happen to good people im afraid =\

Quoting OP so it's easier for me to write XD.

Let's see... I was a freaking pushover from 7th grade to almost the end of my senior year of highschool.

ex.:
I had a friend who was a friend except when girls were involved -- then I didn't exist and he was out flirting or with his gf 24/7.

Often help people and never receive any help in return from these people (I don't mean a one-time thing, I mean like helping friends).

Several of my relationships with girls (and by this I don't mean dating) were started because I was your average naieve "nice" guy who only knew how to start a relationship with them through moral support or compliments. Very fake relationships imo.

But that's all in the past. I realized the error of my ways relatively quickly. I haven't been that way since highschool. Life is better when you have your own opinions, confidence, and self-interests.

Girl hopped to cover up my own short-comings and avoid reality; had the biggest fear of being alone or feeling useless.

I never had opinions in relationships because I thought if I gave her what she wanted, how she wanted it, things would be alright and I wouldn't be alone. Ha ha ha, fucking stupid. Held EVERY woman on a pedestal, thought she was perfection personified. . could never do any wrong, even when she cheated or lied on/to me. .

God, those were dark days. . Very dark days. I honestly don't know what turned me around, be it realization or an epiphany or whatever the case, but now I see things with slight arrogance and condescension, so I'm still in the works.

I never turned on my friends, but I was always the one my friends excluded when they were involved with their "forever" girl. .

Things take time, I suppose.

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sorry, always wanted to use that one..

I had many friends like that right after I got out of high school. I had all these people that I thought were my friends. Many of them ended up forgetting about me as soon as I was no longer any benefit to them.

I've had someone that I was friends with (not that closely but we all had mutual friends that were close) and he got a girl friend who was straight up bitchy, and he changed. When we were with him and his girlfriend, he was not the friend we had come to know and love and slowly he drifted away, became obsessed with money because his girl was and only spoke to her, hung out with her etc. He changed his religious beliefs, his lifestyle..everything like...straight up, another person and not in a good way and to this day, we're not friends any more...he's forgotten everything that everyone in his circle of friends ever did for him which was basically feed him for the most part and he just moved on because he got a girl friend.

Now they've broken up and he's lost and he can't figure out why things are the way they are and they can never be the same, forever strained.

It really shows your character when things like that happen.