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    > Relatively new weapon, the pulse ray

    Danika
    post May 4 2009, 08:56 AM
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    The government has been working on this since 2007. They basically developed a ray gun that makes you too uncomfortable to do anything. This is how it works: first the high-energy powered laser beam heats up and ionizes the air, which then creates a plasma channel that can be used to send a wave of energy through it. It can also act as a pulse for microwaves and conduct electricity. Direct quote: "The laser beam plans from two years ago wasn't suppose to be fatal; instead it would be used to render enemies too uncomfortable to fight - an electronic eye poke if you will."

    What do you guys think about this? Its kinda crazy what kind of technology we have now. We can harm people through the air without actually touching them physically at all.


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    Well, the government is always looking for nonlethal ways to deal with its citizenry. Can we complain when a riot is broken up without any serious injury? Isn't the government being responsible for taking the health of its citizenry into account...of course this would be all nice and fancy if it didn't revolve around keeping the citizens subdued...Making us unable to voice our dissent. I'm sure proponents of this weapon will say it'll only be used in dangerous situations like raiding a room full of armed criminals, but eventually all weapons with set their sights upon the people. Mmm im rambling and have homework to finish. BYE~


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    Aw, I wish you could see the beam. haha..
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    QUOTE (Jamerson @ May 4 2009, 07:15 PM) *
    Well, the government is always looking for nonlethal ways to deal with its citizenry. Can we complain when a riot is broken up without any serious injury?


    uhm, my question here is, which is the problem? A riot which is broken up with police force, or the riot itself?
    True, you should be able to voice your feelings and you should be more than free to hold protest marches and such, but in my mind, a protest march should not turn into a riot.
    anyways, that's just my thoughts.
    On the subject of this pulse ray thingy, I think that it is good that the police might get a way of subdueing criminals (dangerous ones) without having to use guns for it. After all, it is much easier to question a suspect when he is alive I think (IMG:http://www.glowsticking.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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    I think the issue is localizing the air particles that are charged into a small room or area. It's great in theory, but that would be the first downfall. Then, the issue also rises when the beam is ejected, how is it controlled. Then the ethical issues arise, as well as the charging time.


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    QUOTE (Tico @ May 4 2009, 01:55 PM) *
    uhm, my question here is, which is the problem? A riot which is broken up with police force, or the riot itself?
    True, you should be able to voice your feelings and you should be more than free to hold protest marches and such, but in my mind, a protest march should not turn into a riot.
    anyways, that's just my thoughts.
    On the subject of this pulse ray thingy, I think that it is good that the police might get a way of subdueing criminals (dangerous ones) without having to use guns for it. After all, it is much easier to question a suspect when he is alive I think (IMG:http://www.glowsticking.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
    Cheers


    then you wouldn't mind having it used on you. at least that's what i infer.

    let the willing majority be subject to it first, and then see how they like it being used on others. i would imagine that guns and all are great for controlling riots, but when you get shot and killed with one they become a much less attractive option.

    also there is no way this is healthy for anyone. if you dont mind i will now start walking around with my sheet of plywood thank you very much.


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    Whatever happened to the taser? Pansies...psh


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    My favorite weapon I saw on the show Future Weapons was the new age in fighting off crowds instead of using fire hoses. Essentially it is a long range tazer that has the ability to jump to up to 10 nearby people. The stun is strong enough to stun the person and render them motionless for up to 30 seconds.

    I've seen this weapon on Future Weapons too...the dude testing it was using different things to try and block the waves and nothing that a normal person could carry stopped it.
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    I wanna know what it feels like lol.


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    QUOTE (Tico @ May 4 2009, 12:55 PM) *
    uhm, my question here is, which is the problem? A riot which is broken up with police force, or the riot itself?
    True, you should be able to voice your feelings and you should be more than free to hold protest marches and such, but in my mind, a protest march should not turn into a riot.
    anyways, that's just my thoughts.
    On the subject of this pulse ray thingy, I think that it is good that the police might get a way of subdueing criminals (dangerous ones) without having to use guns for it. After all, it is much easier to question a suspect when he is alive I think (IMG:http://www.glowsticking.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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    It depends on why the riot has started. If a people want to rise up to overthrow a dictatorial government, etc. Anyhow, we have plenty of nonlethal weapons, but more and more and more are developed. We have plenty of other things we can spend money on researching.


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    How about the May Day events? Those were taken too far in a lot of countries and needed police intervention.
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    QUOTE (prix @ May 5 2009, 01:23 AM) *
    then you wouldn't mind having it used on you. at least that's what i infer.

    let the willing majority be subject to it first, and then see how they like it being used on others. i would imagine that guns and all are great for controlling riots, but when you get shot and killed with one they become a much less attractive option.

    also there is no way this is healthy for anyone. if you dont mind i will now start walking around with my sheet of plywood thank you very much.


    I wasn't planning on getting in a situation where it is used on me (IMG:http://www.glowsticking.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
    but I wouldn't like it being used on me I think, although, if I have to choose I think I would prefer this over a bullet or a taser, but I haven't experienced any of them so I can't know for sure.
    About the shot anc killed being less attractive, to be honest, I think that it would be better to be shot and die instantly, than to get shot and suffer some kind of injury from it which leaves you paralysed from the neck down for the rest of your life, but that is just my (sometimes weird) thinking


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    (20 minutes into the future)

    riot officer: "I'm chargin my rayzor!"

    protester: "Don't rayze me, bro!"

    (couldn't resist.)

    Does this mean they have stopped trying to develop the "brown note" gun or was this an offshoot of that program?


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    QUOTE (Dogman @ May 5 2009, 02:48 PM) *
    (20 minutes into the future)

    riot officer: "I'm chargin my rayzor!"

    protester: "Don't rayze me, bro!"

    (couldn't resist.)

    Does this mean they have stopped trying to develop the "brown note" gun or was this an offshoot of that program?

    some here is /b/tard lol either way this is better then being tazed or shot


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