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ChiUnit4evr
post Jun 19 2009, 01:55 PM
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So I saw a guy using flowlights for stringing recently.

From what I understand, they are probably a fair bit heavier than regular glowsticks. I was wondering if anyone has used these led-sticks and if so, are they any good for stringing?


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post Jun 19 2009, 02:04 PM
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Do a little bit of research man, theres been a few threads, even recently, of ppl talkin about flowlights.

Everytime the topic comes up, ppl say that if you like having a poi-type style, they can be a good thing.....but if you like having a glowstringing-type style, they can be a very bad and fund-consuming thing.

Poi-type styles are slow, more visually open. Glowstringing-type styles are fast, more visually closed. All that means is that these heavy, expensive and not-so-durable lights are much much much more of a better idea if you're spinning like a poi'ist with lots of same direction spin-moves at slower, more spread out visual-speeds. If youre a glowstringer (loves stringing fast and wrapping a lot), odds are that the flowlights will break within a week of trying to get the hang of 'em, and you will be a sad panda.

Think long and hard about that b4 u go buy some if u dont wanna risk regretting it.


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post Jun 19 2009, 02:32 PM
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ok sorry I didn't adequately search before posting.


One more question and then you can delete this post if you want.

But I was wondering if they were still fragile even if you used the crystal sleeve things they sell? The guy I asked suggested that you buy those.


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post Jun 19 2009, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE (ChiUnit4evr @ Jun 19 2009, 02:32 PM) *
But I was wondering if they were still fragile even if you used the crystal sleeve things they sell? The guy I asked suggested that you buy those.
Those would be a good investment, but you'll still end up smackign them together harder on occasion.


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post Jun 19 2009, 06:46 PM
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they work they are good and they are fairly durable but i recommend them for perfomances and not for practice. they are heavier than glowsticks and when they hit one another the sound is kinda scary.
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post Jun 19 2009, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE (Saiyajinzoningen @ Jun 19 2009, 06:46 PM) *
they work they are good and they are fairly durable but i recommend them for perfomances and not for practice. they are heavier than glowsticks and when they hit one another the sound is kinda scary.

how much heavier?


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post Jun 19 2009, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE (ChiUnit4evr @ Jun 19 2009, 09:50 PM) *
how much heavier?

Dude, the crystal cases add a lot more weight to them and, imo, it makes em even more uncomfortable to use (but im used to glowsticks newayz). I bought 4 flowlights once and made handles out of em (tried em with and w/o the crystal cases) and seriously within 2 days, 2 of the sticks became deficient so i got my money back. Also, my ratio of practice to performance is sumthin like 99% to 1% so they werent really a good idea in the first place.


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post Jun 20 2009, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE (Ellezdey-RetrO @ Jun 19 2009, 11:06 PM) *
Dude, the crystal cases add a lot more weight to them and, imo, it makes em even more uncomfortable to use (but im used to glowsticks newayz). I bought 4 flowlights once and made handles out of em (tried em with and w/o the crystal cases) and seriously within 2 days, 2 of the sticks became deficient so i got my money back. Also, my ratio of practice to performance is sumthin like 99% to 1% so they werent really a good idea in the first place.

Well I mean, from the website, it looks like they have crystal cases, which just seem like silicone sleeves that you'd put on a wiimote or something, and then they have "flowmasses" which seem like extra weights you can put on...Do you know which you bought? Cuz it doesn't strike me that a silicone sleeve would add all that much weight.


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QUOTE (ChiUnit4evr @ Jun 20 2009, 11:54 PM) *
Well I mean, from the website, it looks like they have crystal cases, which just seem like silicone sleeves that you'd put on a wiimote or something, and then they have "flowmasses" which seem like extra weights you can put on...Do you know which you bought? Cuz it doesn't strike me that a silicone sleeve would add all that much weight.

They def were not the flowmasses. They were the crystal cases and yes they themselves arent that heavy but neither are the flowlights. Flowlights + crystal cases = double the weight; and the crystal cases add a lot of bulk to the lights so it gets really awkward for wrapping. Wrapping with crystal cased flowights is just awkward! Thats why i say that flowights (for glowstringers w/ crystal cases) is a much better idea for the stringers who do lots of poi moves and very few wraps, but not a good idea if you have classic glowstringing style with wraps and speedy visual direction changes.

But like i said, make sure you know which of the two types of stringers you are for sure before you buy them.


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post Jun 21 2009, 07:19 AM
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QUOTE (Ellezdey-RetrO @ Jun 20 2009, 11:06 PM) *
They def were not the flowmasses. They were the crystal cases and yes they themselves arent that heavy but neither are the flowlights. Flowlights + crystal cases = double the weight; and the crystal cases add a lot of bulk to the lights so it gets really awkward for wrapping. Wrapping with crystal cased flowights is just awkward! Thats why i say that flowights (for glowstringers w/ crystal cases) is a much better idea for the stringers who do lots of poi moves and very few wraps, but not a good idea if you have classic glowstringing style with wraps and speedy visual direction changes.

But like i said, make sure you know which of the two types of stringers you are for sure before you buy them.

ok
thanks for all your help!


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post Jun 21 2009, 10:46 AM
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I said this in the other recent post on flowlights, but I bought a pair about four months ago and they are all I use now. If you get used to them, they won't seem awkward. In my opinion they wrap just as well as glowsticks, just slower, and they are extremely durable with the crystal cases. Don't plan on doing any string manips though, they're just too big and the texture of the crystal cases makes things like bow-ties impossible. I do not use the extra mass, but they still seem significantly heavier than normal glowsticks.


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post Jun 21 2009, 12:38 PM
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Hm wasn't there just a thread on this?

Flowlights are ok for poi, but anything besides that they lack dynamic. Honestly, I think you're better off just buying glowsticks with the money you invest in flowlights. That or go make/buy a pair of inovasticks.


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post Jun 21 2009, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE (The Rage @ Jun 21 2009, 12:38 PM) *
Hm wasn't there just a thread on this?

Flowlights are ok for poi, but anything besides that they lack dynamic. Honestly, I think you're better off just buying glowsticks with the money you invest in flowlights. That or go make/buy a pair of inovasticks.

I already have a pair of iNova sticks, and they just feel different from real glowsticks. I think weight wise, they're the same as regular glowsticks (I just a scale for this). But the feel is just so different...

But I'll keep all of this in mind. Thanks to all who have posted for your input so far, both positive and negative.


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post Jun 21 2009, 09:54 PM
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You may want to scan the forums, as I know we've had a heated discussion on these before. There's a lot of pros/cons in them.


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post Jun 22 2009, 06:29 PM
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post Jun 23 2009, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE (The Rage @ Jun 21 2009, 10:54 PM) *
You may want to scan the forums, as I know we've had a heated discussion on these before. There's a lot of pros/cons in them.

yeah I did a very very brief scan before posting this thread. I guess I just didn't look very carefully. My apologies.


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post Jun 23 2009, 05:20 PM
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Honestly, I think it's a love/hate with them. You either love them or hate them. I love them because I take them quite literally everywhere with me and they double as flashlights (electricity went when we were at a bar literally yesterday and that was our only light source for an hour). I've got the crystal cases as well. USE THEM IF YOU USE FLOWLIGHTS FOR GLOWSTRINGING! The boi and I have each destroyed one or two apiece over the past two months without the cases.

I mostly dig them because I'm still learning, and the extra weight helps keep moves slow. And they're pretty great for freehand... use flowlights without the cases and freehanding almost becomes magical.


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post Jul 3 2009, 10:48 AM
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i think they look pretty cool but i have heard that they break easy (im not stating a fact i just heard that several times) im sure it saves you money cause you dont have to buy new glowsticks all the time and i hear they hurt lol on account of them being very heavy lol


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post Jul 6 2009, 12:38 AM
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Flowlights aren't the same as glowsticks. I find it easier to progress my skill if I switch up weight of what I am spinning every so often, which is what these do. Its really nice being able to switch the light on and off of course. I have never had them just a lot of my friends do, but I have spun them, and plan on getting some as soon as the new colors come in.
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i think they are not a substitute for glowsticks.

but they are good quality led poi, a car ran over mine with the crystal casing and all that happened was a little split on the plastic weld of the flowlight, i put a bit of glue in between and it still works perfectly.
other nice points is that u can turn it on and off at any time and they last a good while. ofcourse there are downsides. eventually it comes down to what you prefer or get used to.

i'm using glowsticks most of the time but i'll bring my crystal poi when walking the dog and feeling like practicing with light. just for myself and figuring out certain stuff. this way i can see trails and don't have to crack some sticks.

@Novah: i saw you having a handles crystal setup. but do you colorswitch with them. i thought of it but i know that the drops i probably will make shorten the lifetime of the poi bigtime. in my eyes they are to fragile to drop multiple times a day.


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