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 Glowstring vs Poi Discussion, from 2005 |
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 Sep 25 2007, 12:06 PM
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good point about the cultural aspect of being a glowstringer. i guess if you consider yourself a glowstringer, and what you do glowstringing, i guess you are one. you fit the base minimum which is stringing with glowsticks. but at the same time, we need to define the technical aspects of what separates a glowstringer from a poist. i think the move list we have now have conclusively proven that.
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Sep 25 2007, 12:17 PM
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I don't belive in a completely seperate move list. We already share alot of moves, but yet they call it Poi. If its a basic and integral part of our art form, its part of it. It may have been used first in poi, but a fountain is still a glowstringing move, and same for a waist wrap even if we have a different name for it.
Open your minds, if your able to do a few manipulations with Poi, does it make it glowstringing? I belive not, its just a under developed branch that Poi could explore. Counterwise, using the flow that Poi normally implements is still a Glowstringing tool, not just specific to Poi.
People may consider this and that "not Poi" or "not Glowstringing" becuase of the direction either art is going in, if your able to acheive the result with the chosen tool, its now in that art forms arsenal.
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Sep 25 2007, 12:51 PM
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Cant we all just be glowstringing poiists or poiiing glowstringers?
Personally when I am at a rave with some glow I feel more like a glowstringer but when I am spinning fire to the beat of a drum (!!!!^^!!!!) I feel like a poiist. No need to attach so much dualism to the thing if you ask me -.^
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Sep 25 2007, 02:34 PM
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There are differences for a reason. Its what makes each unique, and you should respect that. Spinning in for no reason is like being able to treat someone back to health, saving them from death, and not knowing the morality of it.
Its a cool skill, but you have no basis for it, cuasing it to be shallow while the depth of it eludes you.
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Sep 25 2007, 03:00 PM
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You don't have to do manipulations, or yoyo type moves, for it to be called glowstringing.
But in my opinion if your doing just poi with glowsticks it's poi, not glowstringing.
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Sep 25 2007, 03:39 PM
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Few things cause something else to be shallow my good man. Perhaps the depth of what I say is eluding (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Sep 25 2007, 03:47 PM
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Wait, are you saying I'm eluding posts? I'm just saying what I beleive...
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Sep 25 2007, 04:25 PM
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for me, I believe that glowstringing and poi have their differences in moves. Unlike poi, glowstringing doesn't have alot of names or moves but, most of the stuff are just variations of the certain moves in the sense of making it look unique and building combos upon. after my experience with poi in the past, I found alot of the poi moves as filter moves such as transitioning into combos even though now a days we can limit ourselves from poi and push the glowstringing arts.
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Sep 25 2007, 04:50 PM
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I've been reading this debate actually starting yesterday, I thought I had already read it and posted in this thread (but it turns out to be a completely different one altogether). I, for most of the time I've been stringing, or spinning, whichever you prefer, have always wanted to learn both, and to actively showcase and perform both at all times, but reading this and how the poi community didn't really see glowstringing as a separate art, and even some of the disrespect towards it, makes me want to focus on stringing a lot more. I do think we have come an incredibly long way from 2005 where the poi community still saw glowstringing as a part of poi (like with the whole a) (IMG: style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) c) d) categorization) and not long after I joined this website I already saw glowstringing as its own art, distinguished from poi. I'm only on page 7 or something, and I don't know if this discussion continued from 2005 onward, but so far, it would be really interesting to see what the poists think of glowstringing now, seeing as how the art has been pushed so much further. There was a certain post that made me smile on that thread, it went something like 'I dont think stringing will evolve any more than where it is presently', and it's really cool to see that people here at GS.c have surpassed poi and its limitations, so to speak. AHHHH GOING TO CONTINUE READING. : X
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Sep 25 2007, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE I don't belive in a completely seperate move list. We already share alot of moves, but yet they call it Poi. If its a basic and integral part of our art form, its part of it. It may have been used first in poi, but a fountain is still a glowstringing move, and same for a waist wrap even if we have a different name for it. here is a question. WHY call it poi? why does it get to be called poi? the weave isn't a poi move. it's been done for thousands of years in martial arts disciplines. you may have a point about not defining things, but here is my take-- why not just have a huge "string" site, including yo-yo, martial arts rope darts? why have separate categorization for music? it's all the same thing. why have deep house, tech house, or hard house? because some people view it as a separate feeling, a separate culture. glowstringing has become that. you may not agree-- that is your right-- but this site officially recognizes glowstringing to have evolved such that it's possible to do an entire routine without making use of any kind of poi what's so ever. anyway, to me anyway, this debate isn't really a debate anymore. every time i go to a meetup and see what new stuff these guys have created, i believe it more and more.
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