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#1 KaelGotRice

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Posted 02 July 2006 - 05:21 PM

WARNING - First off, flowers are a relatively difficult move. Have some experience before trying this. Many poists can't fanthom this move and it takes awhile to learn. It's even harder to learn with glowsticks than heavier poi. But trust me, it's worth it.

First off, what is a flower?

Example vid here
Forward and reverse 4 petal flowers, including a flower turn


This is what a flower looks like.

Flowers are nothing more but a long arm poi extension changing the point of rotation at certain time intervals during the course of spinning the glowstick. What this means in english- moving your arms in controlled circles while the glowstick is rotating around as well.

Now how to do it?

regular 4 petal flower- try this without glowsticks first. Imagine that you are swimming freestyle. In other words, your arms are rotating forward at full reach. Now grab your glowsticks. Now if your arms were a clock, what you'd want to happen is that at the 12, 3, 6, and 9 o'clock positions, youd want the glowsticks to make a rotation and be pointed in at you. So keep moving your arms, and at each of those points the glowsticks should make one rotation. See video and picture.

Reverse 4 petal flower- Instead of doing freestyle, swim backstroke. The glowsticks should be rotating like your doing reverse weave.

Notice while doing flowers that your arms never actually cross your body like a weave. Now you CAN cross the glowsticks to the other side and turn around, thus accomplishing a flower turn. Much like weave turns, you should know forward and reverse flowers before attempting turns.

What to do afterwards-
Try different numbered petal flowers. Try isolating flowers. Do antispin flowers. etc etc etc.



To do antispin flowers- move your arms forward as if you were swimming freestyle. However, the glowsticks should be rotating backwards as if you were doing reverse.

For reverse antispin flowers- Your arms are rotating backwards like reverse or backstroke, but the glowsticks are rotating foward.

After you learn those, you can manage antispin flower turns.

Congratulations!

Edited by melvenorc12, 27 February 2009 - 07:03 PM.


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Posted 02 July 2006 - 05:24 PM

What about that one kind of flower thats done in the Yuta video.. you have a picture of it on your MySpace and it's the one that has the three petals. You're standing still and move the poi up and down.. how do you do that and what the heck is it called?

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Posted 02 July 2006 - 05:28 PM

Those are called buterfly flowers I believe

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Posted 02 July 2006 - 05:30 PM

ahh yess i'll add on to this with the butterfly and butterfly antispin flowers.

btw she means this IPB Image

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Posted 02 July 2006 - 05:49 PM

Is there any way one could do somthing like antispin buzzsaw flowers? Cause i've been playing with buzzsaw flowers for a while now and i've been trying to find some way to add a bit more of a "Shizam" aspect to it =/

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Posted 02 July 2006 - 07:22 PM

antispin buzzsaw flowers - http://www.homeofpoi...nnygoodness.wmv


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Posted 02 July 2006 - 10:07 PM

With flowers when I was learning them, I just needed to learn to keep my arms at the same length and not tuck one in more than another.

Than with BZ Flowers, you just need to practice to get them to always rotate around the same point.

I do some on my old vid, but I dont think that's back up yet.

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Posted 02 July 2006 - 11:24 PM

QUOTE(KaelGotRice @ Jul 2 2006, 06:30 PM) View Post

ahh yess i'll add on to this with the butterfly and butterfly antispin flowers.

btw she means this IPB Image


basically, you're doing antispin flowers in opposite directions... meaning one arm is going one way and the other is going another way...

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Posted 03 July 2006 - 09:42 AM

QUOTE(KaelGotRice @ Jul 2 2006, 11:22 PM) View Post

antispin buzzsaw flowers - http://www.homeofpoi...nnygoodness.wmv


Danke very much =D

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Posted 03 July 2006 - 07:47 PM

http://www.homeofpoi...nnygoodness.wmv

for some reason that link didn't work for me, but I deleted the forward slash before "500" and it worked.

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Posted 03 July 2006 - 10:50 PM

maybe your firewall is blocking it??? I don't know...

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 10:03 AM

Nick Woosey's secret of Flowers

I'm bumping this thread shince people keep asking about flowers :]

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 02:04 PM

Thanks for the post.

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 02:43 PM

thanks for the post, your instructions were easy to follow. right on

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Posted 30 October 2006 - 02:23 AM

The swimming method is the easiest way to learn.

Good post, thanks for bumping.

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Posted 30 October 2006 - 10:27 AM

Thankees, flowers are sexy.

I hit the ceiling when I practice inside and it's too cold outside =( I want to learn flowers =(

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Posted 30 October 2006 - 02:46 PM

QUOTE(DocInferno @ Oct 30 2006, 10:27 AM) View Post

Thankees, flowers are sexy.

I hit the ceiling when I practice inside and it's too cold outside =( I want to learn flowers =(

practice your split-time in order to get this move down smoothly smile.gif

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Posted 30 October 2006 - 03:09 PM

I guess I could, my split time is fine tho, the ceiling is the problem =P

I've been practicing half-arm length flowers for the time being, since I can't practice normal length.

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Posted 18 December 2006 - 12:47 PM

*BUMP

Here's a list of the 16 flower combinations, 4 petals.

Four petal flower/lockout types 12/3/6/9 o'clock flowers
The directions are for the rotations of your arms or poi. If it's forward, spin like a regular weave if you were jump roping. If it's reverse, spin like reverse weave. Remember, this is always to the side of you in the weave/side plane. Your hands never switch sides unless you're turning.

arms: forward/poi: forwards = regular flower
arms: reverse/poi: reverse = reverse flower
arms: reverse/poi: forward = forward antispin flower
arms: forward/poi: reverse = reverse antispin flower
arms: butterfly/poi: butterfly = butterfly flower
arms: reverse butterfly/poi: reverse butterfly = reverse butterfly flower
arms: butterfly/poi: reverse butterfly = butterfly antispin flower
arms: reverse butterfly/poi: butterfly = butterfly antispin flower
arms: forward/poi: butterfly = goofy butterfly flower
arms: reverse/poi: butterfly = reverse goofy butterfly flower
arms: butterfly/poi: forward = goofy flower (what people on HoP call it)
arms: butterfly/poi:reverse = reverse goofy flower
arms: forward/poi: reverse butterfly = goofy reverse butterfly flower
arms: reverse/poi: reverse butterfly = reverse goofy reverse butterfly flower
arms: reverse butterfly/poi: forward = goofy flower with reverse butterfly arms
arms: reverse butterfly/poi: reverse = reverse goofy flower with reverse butterfly arms

The "names" that differentiate flowers get confusing and ridiculous (which is why i hate naming poi moves), add in extra petals and it's a fucking nightmare.

The names aren't important though, just learn the four directions you can spin your poi in: forward, reverse, butterfly, and reverse butterfly - match those with the four directions your arms can go: forward, reverse, butterfly, and reverse butterfly.

There's 16 combinations.

That's all you need to know.

Edited by KaelGotRice, 18 December 2006 - 12:52 PM.


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Posted 24 December 2006 - 01:49 AM

sweet... thanks kael...
I guess, I'll be working more on flowers, again...
time to really clean up that 6 petal butterfly anti-spin flower smile.gif




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